Wie is Desmond Tutu?

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Inhoud: Politieke rol, Teologiese sieninge, Homoseksualiteit, Jesus se Godheid, Jesus se opstanding en hemelvaart, Redding, Aborsie, Genadedood, Bevrydingsteologie, Verering deur die NG Kerk, Kyk ook, Meer aanhalings

Aartsbiskop Desmond Tutu (7 Okt 1931 tot 26 Des 2021) was ’n vryheidsvegter teen apartheid en die hoof van die Anglikaanse Kerk van Suid-Afrika.

Politieke rol

Op politieke vlak het hy ’n groot rol daarin gespeel dat daar in 1994 ’n vredevolle oorgang plaasgevind het in Suid-Afrika. Hy het ook die ANC in latere jare gekritiseer alhoewel dit geen wesenlike impak gemaak het nie.

Teologiese sieninge

Hy was baie liberaal in sy teologie.

Homoseksualiteit

Hy was ten gunste van homoseksuele verhoudings. Hy het byvoorbeeld op 26 Julie 2013 kerke veroordeel wat teen die LGBT-gemeenskap diskrimineer:

I would not worship a God who is homophobic and that is how deeply I feel about this … I would refuse to go to a homophobic heaven. No, I would say sorry, I mean I would much rather go to the other place … I am as passionate about this campaign as I ever was about apartheid. For me, it is at the same level.

Kyk ook Meshoe kritiseer Tutu oor “homofobiese God” (31 Jul 2013)

Jesus se Godheid

Oor Robin Meyers se boek Saving Jesus from the Church, waarin Meyers Jesus se godheid bevraagteken, het Tutu die volgende gesê:

Every once in a while, a book comes along that changes everything. This is the book. It is scholarly, pastoral, prophetic, and eloquent – all in equal measure. Robin Meyers has spoken truth to power, and the church he loves will never be the same.

Jesus se opstanding en hemelvaart

In ’n SABC onderhoud vra John Bishop vir Tutu die volgende vraag:

A fellow bishop, John Shelby Spong has written a book and apparently is suggesting that the resurrection was not meant to be taken literally, the virgin birth of Christ is an unthinkable doctrine and apparently says there is little value in the doctrine of the trinity or in the believe that Jesus Christ was sent to save fallen humanity from sin. All that sounds a carbon copy of what is known as modernism. Where are you on that?

Hierop sê hy onder andere:

My dear friend, when we say Jesus Christ ascended into heaven, you don’t believe that he got a kind of ecclesiastical lift that took him into the stratosphere. You already in your mind, if you are a thinking Christian, realise that this is language that is being used figuratively. When we speak even about the resurrection of Jesus Christ it is not the revivification of a corpse. It is speaking about a tremendous reality that Jesus Christ is risen, his life is real, he is accessible to me here in South Africa.

~ SABC onderhoud met John Bishop (op 19 April 1992?)

No one knew whether to take him seriously or not when, in the midst of an impassioned hour-long speech about politics and religion, he queried Christ’s legitimacy. He said: “You see we made a mess of our lives and God could have remained upstairs and shouted good advice to us, ‘hey, you down there … .’ But he decided he was going to come down …. “And some people thought there was something odd about his birth. Many Christians try to run away from this because it may be that Jesus was an illegitimate son. “I am saying this with profound reverence because Mary did say ‘I do not know a man’”. Bishop Tutu suddenly remembered the press was present and looking at the Daily Dispatch reporter in the front row, armed with notebook and tape recorder, he wagged his finger and said: “You are not going to put big headlines, Bishop Tutu says Jesus was an illegitimate son”. The audience laughed and he continued with his theory.

~ Cape Times, 24.10.80

Redding

Hy was ook ’n universalis. Frits Gaum skryf die volgende oor hom:

“Ek het ’n baie goeie antwoord by hom gekry (Desmond Tutu) . . . hy het gesê dis nie die enigste pad nie, maar dis ’n unieke pad na God.”

~ Frits Gaum

“We may be surprised at the people we find in heaven. God has a soft spot for sinners. His standards are quite low.”

~ Sunday Times, April 15, 2001, per Oxford Reference. (bron1, bron2)

“I give great thanks to God that he has created a Dalai Lama. Do you really think, as some have argued, that God will be saying: ‘You know, that guy, the Dalai Lama, is not bad. What a pity he’s not a Christian’? … I don’t think that is the case, because, you see, God is not a Christian.”

~ Toespraak by die Dalai Lama se verjaarsdag 2 June 2006 (bron1, bron2, bron3, bron4)

“The Holy Spirit is not limited to the Christian Church. For example, Mahatma Gandhi, who is a Hindu… The Holy Spirit shines through him.”

~St. Alban’s Cathedral, Pretoria, 23.11.75 (uit gospeldefenceleague.org)

It doesn’t matter where we worship or what we call God; there is only one, inter-dependent human family. We are born for goodness, to love – free of prejudice. All of us, without exception. There is greater commonality in our belief systems than we tend to credit, a golden thread expressed in the maxim that one should treat others as one would like others to treat oneself. I don’t believe in the notion of “opposing belief systems.” It would be more accurate to say that human beings have a long history of rationalizing acts of inhumanity on the basis of their own interpretations of the will of God.

~ Onderhoud op 8 Junie 2015 (Desmond Tutu: World needs to recognise the ‘humanity in others’)

Aborsie

Tutu het sy steun gevoeg by die Marie Stopes Clinic (‘n groep aborsieklinieke):

Genadedood

Tutu was ook ten gunste van genadedood:

“I have prepared for my death and have made it clear that I do not wish to be kept alive at all costs. I hope I am treated with compassion and allowed to pass on to the next phase of life’s journey in the manner of my choice.”

~ Op-ed in The Washington Post, 2016 (bron)

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Bevrydingsteologie

“If Jesus Christ came to South Africa today, he would be in trouble with the authorities because of his solidarity with the poor, the oppressed, the hungry, and he would certainly be detained… I am sure that many whites would say that he deserved it; there is no smoke without fire.”

~ Cape Times, 14.2.86 (uit gospeldefenceleague.org)

Verering deur die NG Kerk

Ten spyte van al hierdie feite het die NG Kerk hom vereer deur die Andrew Murray-Desmond Tutuprys en Desmond Tutu-Gerrit Brandprys deel te maak van die Andrew Murrayprys. Kyk ook:

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“Our government… says it will not support Tibetans who are being oppressed viciously by the Chinese… I am warning you, I am warning you, that we will pray as we prayed for the downfall of the apartheid government, we will pray for the downfall of a government that misrepresents us.”

~ On South Africa refusing the Dalai Lama a visa, 2011 (bron)

“I am ashamed to call this lickspittle bunch my government.”

~ After South Africa again denied the Dalai Lama a visa, 2014 (bron)

“If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor. If an elephant has its foot on the tail of a mouse and you say that you are neutral, the mouse will not appreciate your neutrality.”

~ Oxford Reference

“Hope is being able to see that there is light despite all of the darkness.”

~ Desmond Tutu

“I am not interested in picking up crumbs of compassion thrown from the table of someone who considers himself my master. I want the full menu of human rights.”

~ January 1985, per BBC. (bron)

“He has, I mean, mutated into something that is quite unbelievable. He has really turned into a kind of Frankenstein for his people.”

~ Commenting about Robert Mugabe to Australia’s ABC TV

“When the missionaries came to Africa they had the Bible and we had the land. They said ‘Let us pray.’ We closed our eyes. When we opened them we had the Bible and they had the land.”

~ Desmond Tutu

Look at sophisticated countries, highly Christian, like Germany. They end up with a holocaust of six-million people! I muttered something about advanced countries not being free from sin, and asked him again about a future ANC government. Our chances are very good. You see, our antecedents include the Freedom Charter, which speaks of a caring, sharing kind of community. More socialist than capitalist, and I make no bones about it. I myself hate capitalism.

~Sunday Times, 29.12.85

“I think I would use Marxist insights, ‘From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.’ That, I think, is in line with what Our Lord, himself, would have taught.”

~ Inside South Africa, April 1988 (uit gospeldefenceleague.org)

“If the Russians were to come to South Africa, most Blacks would welcome them as saviours.”

~ St. Paul’s Cathedral, London, November 1984 (uit gospeldefenceleague.org)

“Communist China will provide a very good model for developing countries.”

~ Washington Inquirer, 29.8.86 (uit gospeldefenceleague.org)

“I call on the international community to apply punitive sanctions against this Government.”

~ Argus, 3.4.86 (uit gospeldefenceleague.org)

“I do not regret what I have said, and I am not going to be dictated to by anybody.”

~ Die Burger, 22.8.86 (uit gospeldefenceleague.org)

Elke Christen móét ’n revolusionêr wees. Jesus was ’n revolusionêr. Ek is ’n revolusionêr as jy daarmee bedoel iemand wat dinge heeltemal wil verander. As jy daarmee bedoel of ek ’n geweer sal dra, óf oorlog sal maak – nee. Só is ek nie ’n revolusionêr nie.

~ Rapport, 20.4.86

“Every Christian must be a revolutionary. Jesus was a revolutionary. I am a revolutionary if you understand by that somebody who wants to completely change things.”

~ Rapport, 20.4.86 (uit gospeldefenceleague.org)

“I am not saying Whites would be massacred…”

~ Cape Times, 11.12.84 (uit gospeldefenceleague.org)

“Imagine what would happen if only 30 percent of domestic servants (in white households) would poison their employers’ food.”

~ Volkskrant, Holland, 15.11.84 (uit gospeldefenceleague.org)

“Suppose you gave them each a vial of arsenic… They look after the white people’s children…”

~ WNBC-TV Dec. 85 (uit gospeldefenceleague.org)

“Is it not surprising that Black resistance has not yet blown up a schoolbus with white children? They are the softest targets.”

~ Ibid. and Sunday Times, 26.1.86 (uit gospeldefenceleague.org)

“There will be no sympathy for the Jews when the Blacks take over.”

~ Boston Jewish Times, Nov. 21, 1986 (uit gospeldefenceleague.org)

WASHINGTON — Would the United States have had constructive engagement with Nazi Germany, and would it have collaborated with the Stalin regime in its internal policies? These questions were asked yesterday by Bishop
Desmond Tutu, general secretary of the South African Council of Churches, in an article in the Washington Post. “Thank God I am black,” he said. “White people will have a lot to answer for at the last judgment.” Bishop Tutu said the South African Prime Minister, Mr P W Botha, must be given credit for the “enormous courage” he showed in calling the constitutional referendum.

~ The Star, 19.3.84

“One young man with a stone in his hands can achieve more than I can with a dozen sermons.”

~ Daily Telegraph, London, Nov. 1984 (uit gospeldefenceleague.org)

“Unless America puts pressure on South Africa… the only way forward is to overthrow the Government by force.”

~ Sunday Times, 26.1.86 (uit gospeldefenceleague.org)

“There comes a time when it is justifiable to overthrow an unjust system by violence.”

~ Argus, 3.4.86 (uit gospeldefenceleague.org)

“I will tell you the day… (when) we must use violence to overthrow an unjust system.”

~ The Argus, 24.6.87

“You build up a process of disobeying on a massive scale, that will mean nearly all the laws in the statute book, so that this country becomes ungovernable.”

~ Eloff Report, 1984 (uit gospeldefenceleague.org)

“I am quite angry,” the 1984 Nobel Peace Prize winner told Britain’s Independent Television News in an interview broadcast in London. “I found the speech nauseating. I think the West, for my part, can go to hell.” Tutu said blacks in South Africa view sanctions as a peaceful way to apply pressure on Pretoria.

~ The Star, 23.7.86 [President Ronald Reagan made a speech on South Africa, but did not want to put economic sanctions on South Africa at this point in time.]

“Mandela is my leader, and I am not going to be dictated to as to who should be my leader.”

~ The Star, 16.8.85 (uit gospeldefenceleague.org)

Nelson Mandela: “There is no alternative to taking up arms. There is no room for peaceful struggle in South Africa.”

~ Washington Times, cit. UCANEWS 10/85

“I receive the Nobel Peace Prize on behalf of the Nelson Mandelas, the Walter Sisulus, the Govan Mbekis, the Winnie Mandelas, the Albertina Sisulus.”

~ 30.4.86 at Munsieville, Tvl., UCANEWS 9/86 (Neem kennis dat Winnie Mandela die volgende gesê het: “With our boxes of matches and our necklaces we shall liberate this country.”) (uit gospeldefenceleague.org)

“When justice prevails over injustice as in Zimbabwe, it shows that the kingdom of God is here already.”

~ Ecunews 11/1980 (uit gospeldefenceleague.org)

“I say the things I say because of who I am. My ultimate mandate is from Jesus Christ.”

~ Argus, 28.4.86

Becoming Archbishop “is all like a dream. I am quite overcome by the awesomeness of it all, and of the tremendous responsibility that has been placed on my shoulders.”

~ Cape Times, 16.4.86

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